http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/ Wed, 07 Jan 2009 12:26:09 -0500 MyBB http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4506 Wed, 07 Jan 2009 12:00:32 -0500 maximusppl http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4506 http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4505 Wed, 07 Jan 2009 11:54:53 -0500 DanGo http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4505 Keep in mind that I just used two overhead condenser Superlux mics going straight to my MOTU 828 mkII interface (which has the preamp Mic 1 kind of broken making a weird nasty noise. Gotta fix that).

Again. There's no bass drum mic and neither a snare drum mic.
Just a plain stereo recording from behind the drumset with the two Superlux mics.

But it's just to give an idea of the sound.

I recorded it in Logic Pro 8 and used some plug-ins. Adaptive Limiter, EQ and Space Designer.

Here it goes.]]> Keep in mind that I just used two overhead condenser Superlux mics going straight to my MOTU 828 mkII interface (which has the preamp Mic 1 kind of broken making a weird nasty noise. Gotta fix that).

Again. There's no bass drum mic and neither a snare drum mic.
Just a plain stereo recording from behind the drumset with the two Superlux mics.

But it's just to give an idea of the sound.

I recorded it in Logic Pro 8 and used some plug-ins. Adaptive Limiter, EQ and Space Designer.

Here it goes.]]> http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4504 Wed, 07 Jan 2009 10:56:47 -0500 VanWinkle http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4504
I’ve gotten great sounds with several models of heads from the throne area, but found out (as many of you have) that great tone and just the right amount of sustain from behind the kit dies rather quickly out front.

One of the first things I found with the G-Plus is that I’ve been spoiled by the easier and more forgiving tuning of a good two-ply head. The heavy single-ply (12 mil thick) tunes like a single-ply – very sensitive to small differences from lug to lug. Once I adapted to the tuning sensitivity and tonal differences – not too bad getting them where I wanted.

Because of the G-Plus sensitivity, the tuning of the reso heads seems to take a larger role in the tone and response of the batter – much more so than the two-plys I’ve gotten used to. This required a little more "back and forth" than I'm accustomed to, but well worth it for the results.

My impression: a hard attack, TONS of tone and a lot of sustain when you make individual hits on a drum. When you play them together like doing pattern triplets, rudiments and fills, the tons of tone becomes this beautifully blended wall of sound and the attack and tone of these heads really stands out well above it.

I got to hear them out front mic’d, and the attack is very sharp and hard. The person hitting them doesn’t hit as hard as I do, so I’m sure I get more tone coming from them than what I was hearing. Basically, the heads sounded exactly like what I wanted them to.

The G-Plus doesn’t tune really low, but the depth is there in their full-range-frequency sound. The lows are in there because of the drum shell construction and dimensions – not because the head is designed to enhance lows and kill highs. I get the sense that these heads give the most accurate representation of what the Pro-M shells sound like than any that I’ve tried to date.

I used the Evans Resonant Glass (7 mil) for the resos because they are supposed to shorten sustain and sharpen attack for better projection. (I wanted them for live rather than studio application). I’m glad I did, because the G-Plus’s have so much sustain on their own that they would probably still be ringing if I’d used the standard G1’s.

For my first time, I have the drums tuned to notes (around the “A” scale), which is also pretty cool. I have instinctively tuned to accurate intervals, but not necessarily to an accurate scale of notes before. I am impressed with the tuning range of the G-Plus while maintaining consistent tone quality. They can go pretty high with out getting boingy and will maintain their tone low right up until they start wrinkling. They also have better stick response than a two-ply, but still not quite as nice as a “normal thickness” singly-ply.

I practiced with them for a week before playing them out for a 5 hour gig and they are holding up nicely, just requiring a few tuning tweaks during the first few days. It’s quite a change from the 2-ply, tone-controlled heads I’ve been using and so far I think I’m liking them a lot.

I'm going to try a set of the "coated" version on my TAMA Swingstars - which have a lot of inherent overtones - and I'll let you know how they do in that situation.

Later, buds.....]]>
I’ve gotten great sounds with several models of heads from the throne area, but found out (as many of you have) that great tone and just the right amount of sustain from behind the kit dies rather quickly out front.

One of the first things I found with the G-Plus is that I’ve been spoiled by the easier and more forgiving tuning of a good two-ply head. The heavy single-ply (12 mil thick) tunes like a single-ply – very sensitive to small differences from lug to lug. Once I adapted to the tuning sensitivity and tonal differences – not too bad getting them where I wanted.

Because of the G-Plus sensitivity, the tuning of the reso heads seems to take a larger role in the tone and response of the batter – much more so than the two-plys I’ve gotten used to. This required a little more "back and forth" than I'm accustomed to, but well worth it for the results.

My impression: a hard attack, TONS of tone and a lot of sustain when you make individual hits on a drum. When you play them together like doing pattern triplets, rudiments and fills, the tons of tone becomes this beautifully blended wall of sound and the attack and tone of these heads really stands out well above it.

I got to hear them out front mic’d, and the attack is very sharp and hard. The person hitting them doesn’t hit as hard as I do, so I’m sure I get more tone coming from them than what I was hearing. Basically, the heads sounded exactly like what I wanted them to.

The G-Plus doesn’t tune really low, but the depth is there in their full-range-frequency sound. The lows are in there because of the drum shell construction and dimensions – not because the head is designed to enhance lows and kill highs. I get the sense that these heads give the most accurate representation of what the Pro-M shells sound like than any that I’ve tried to date.

I used the Evans Resonant Glass (7 mil) for the resos because they are supposed to shorten sustain and sharpen attack for better projection. (I wanted them for live rather than studio application). I’m glad I did, because the G-Plus’s have so much sustain on their own that they would probably still be ringing if I’d used the standard G1’s.

For my first time, I have the drums tuned to notes (around the “A” scale), which is also pretty cool. I have instinctively tuned to accurate intervals, but not necessarily to an accurate scale of notes before. I am impressed with the tuning range of the G-Plus while maintaining consistent tone quality. They can go pretty high with out getting boingy and will maintain their tone low right up until they start wrinkling. They also have better stick response than a two-ply, but still not quite as nice as a “normal thickness” singly-ply.

I practiced with them for a week before playing them out for a 5 hour gig and they are holding up nicely, just requiring a few tuning tweaks during the first few days. It’s quite a change from the 2-ply, tone-controlled heads I’ve been using and so far I think I’m liking them a lot.

I'm going to try a set of the "coated" version on my TAMA Swingstars - which have a lot of inherent overtones - and I'll let you know how they do in that situation.

Later, buds.....]]> http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4503 Wed, 07 Jan 2009 10:26:15 -0500 maximusppl http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4503
For some reason I cannot give up my ride. It's a 21'' Zildjian Sweet Ride, and I love to use it as a crash/ride when I am on it hard.]]>
For some reason I cannot give up my ride. It's a 21'' Zildjian Sweet Ride, and I love to use it as a crash/ride when I am on it hard.]]> http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4502 Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:46:01 -0500 jasont http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4502
My question is, are they relatively easy to assemble? Obviously I'll have to not only assemble the kit itself but also install the heads and stuff. I'm not a mechanical idiot or anything but I've never assembled a drum set before. I assume it comes with instructions or something? Is it possible to break something? That would be bad

I figure between this forum and Google searches I should be good. I'll have lots of questions though, I'm sure.

This should be interesting.]]>
My question is, are they relatively easy to assemble? Obviously I'll have to not only assemble the kit itself but also install the heads and stuff. I'm not a mechanical idiot or anything but I've never assembled a drum set before. I assume it comes with instructions or something? Is it possible to break something? That would be bad

I figure between this forum and Google searches I should be good. I'll have lots of questions though, I'm sure.

This should be interesting.]]> http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4501 Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:22:56 -0500 Corpslife http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4501
http://myworld.ebay.com/jasongodin-78]]>
http://myworld.ebay.com/jasongodin-78]]> http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4500 Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:57:23 -0500 heartben http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4500
i want to know how good/ bad it is and i want to know if its a mars or a mars pro

and i want to know what its worth (only to know if i got burned on it)

i dont have may camera handy but here is a pic that the person i bought it from took. ignore the snare, it is a pearl sensitone.

ask any questions you might need to know and ill respond. im really antsy to get some info on these and know what type they are.



i want you to be honest.

from what i can tell. its a wrap finish, which is kind of lame... anyways, obviously its got tube lugs. the shells are 9 ply.. im not sure what else to say from there. the badges are rectangular...

let me know, im super antsy. thanks.
-ben]]>
i want to know how good/ bad it is and i want to know if its a mars or a mars pro

and i want to know what its worth (only to know if i got burned on it)

i dont have may camera handy but here is a pic that the person i bought it from took. ignore the snare, it is a pearl sensitone.

ask any questions you might need to know and ill respond. im really antsy to get some info on these and know what type they are.



i want you to be honest.

from what i can tell. its a wrap finish, which is kind of lame... anyways, obviously its got tube lugs. the shells are 9 ply.. im not sure what else to say from there. the badges are rectangular...

let me know, im super antsy. thanks.
-ben]]> http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4499 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:04:35 -0500 admin http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4499
Kind Regards]]>
Kind Regards]]> http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4498 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:10:23 -0500 ShogunWarrior32 http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4498
Anyone else experience this..just wondering.]]>
Anyone else experience this..just wondering.]]> http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4497 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:02:08 -0500 rlfriedges http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4497 I ordered a Mapex 10x8 Pro M Tom in Caramel Fade from Mass Music on Dec 31st. What do you all think the likelyhood is that I will receive the tom, seeing the Pro M has been Discontinued. Also, what happens with the lifetime Warranty on the discontinued models? Will they still make them special order? hmmmmm!! I really hope that I got my order in quick enough for them to make it.

Should be interesting to say the least.

Bob]]> I ordered a Mapex 10x8 Pro M Tom in Caramel Fade from Mass Music on Dec 31st. What do you all think the likelyhood is that I will receive the tom, seeing the Pro M has been Discontinued. Also, what happens with the lifetime Warranty on the discontinued models? Will they still make them special order? hmmmmm!! I really hope that I got my order in quick enough for them to make it.

Should be interesting to say the least.

Bob]]> http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4496 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:31:49 -0500 DanGo http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4496
Now that I have my beautiful Saturn...you know the story... ... I'd like to know from older Mapex/Saturn users, what's the best way to have my 10" and 12" toms on Cymbal stands (along with the cymbals)?

I really prefer not to use the bass drum tom mounting system.
And it can be removed on the Saturns, right?
I hope.
I don' t like the position the toms get and they don't go as low as I want.

I've read something about it somewhere I forgot.

Anyway... I prefer to have the two toms (or three with a 8", 10 and 12" config) on cymbal stands coming from the side.

I can't figured out on Mapex hardware page which accessories to look for.

Is the AC908 (Cymbal/Tom arm multi-purpose platform) enough for me to accomplish this set up?
It will fit any Mapex stand?

And do I need longer Tom Holders also?
Wich ones?
I saw a few on the site but they have different diameters!
22.2 mm and 25.4 mm.


Thanks!]]>
Now that I have my beautiful Saturn...you know the story... ... I'd like to know from older Mapex/Saturn users, what's the best way to have my 10" and 12" toms on Cymbal stands (along with the cymbals)?

I really prefer not to use the bass drum tom mounting system.
And it can be removed on the Saturns, right?
I hope.
I don' t like the position the toms get and they don't go as low as I want.

I've read something about it somewhere I forgot.

Anyway... I prefer to have the two toms (or three with a 8", 10 and 12" config) on cymbal stands coming from the side.

I can't figured out on Mapex hardware page which accessories to look for.

Is the AC908 (Cymbal/Tom arm multi-purpose platform) enough for me to accomplish this set up?
It will fit any Mapex stand?

And do I need longer Tom Holders also?
Wich ones?
I saw a few on the site but they have different diameters!
22.2 mm and 25.4 mm.


Thanks!]]> http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4495 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:39:35 -0500 Bruce_B http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4495

There doesn't appear to be an easy way to get the chain off, so what do I do? This is the pedal that came with a QR kit BTW.

Thanks]]>

There doesn't appear to be an easy way to get the chain off, so what do I do? This is the pedal that came with a QR kit BTW.

Thanks]]> http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4494 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:01:20 -0500 Bruce_B http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4494 ]]> ]]> http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4493 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:00:54 -0500 Mikey http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4493 It was the best hour of tv I have seen in a long time!
They interviewed Dom Famularo, Carmine Appice, Chester Thompson, etc., etc.
I was surprised how much of the cymbal making process, is still done by hand.
The Zildjian's seem like a real down to Earth family to work for.]]> It was the best hour of tv I have seen in a long time!
They interviewed Dom Famularo, Carmine Appice, Chester Thompson, etc., etc.
I was surprised how much of the cymbal making process, is still done by hand.
The Zildjian's seem like a real down to Earth family to work for.]]> http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4492 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 11:00:32 -0500 Jarick http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4492
Been lurking for a while and doing research, and finally picked up one of these to replace a custom Keller kit I had made a few years ago:















-----

So far I'm pretty happy with it. Hardware is much better than expected, mounting system works great, very high quality.

I am kind of struggling with the head selection...picked up G2 clears for the 13 and 16 batters, and they are not very good. First time I've ever had an Evans head that wouldn't tune at all. Very dead at low tunings, then completely choked up high. An old coated Emp on the 18 sounded very nice, if quite a bit open, and a completely dead coated Amb on the 13 sounded okay at low volumes. The stock heads actually sounded best so far on the 13, and not bad on the 16 (if a bit thin). So I might try a coated Amb on the 13 and coated Emps on the floors.

Power Center Reverse over Hazy 300 on the snare...sounds better than a few other heads I've tried (stock, coated G2, coated Force X). A bit of a funky overtone going on, but I'm considering swapping the hoops for S-Hoops to dry it out a bit.

Stock kick heads are fantastic...huge kick sound with a ton of boom and volume. Like a subwoofer. It's easily twice as loud as my old Keller 22x17. Quite happy with those, although I might put a small blanket or pillow in the kick and/or put a ported front head on if I every play out live.]]>
Been lurking for a while and doing research, and finally picked up one of these to replace a custom Keller kit I had made a few years ago:















-----

So far I'm pretty happy with it. Hardware is much better than expected, mounting system works great, very high quality.

I am kind of struggling with the head selection...picked up G2 clears for the 13 and 16 batters, and they are not very good. First time I've ever had an Evans head that wouldn't tune at all. Very dead at low tunings, then completely choked up high. An old coated Emp on the 18 sounded very nice, if quite a bit open, and a completely dead coated Amb on the 13 sounded okay at low volumes. The stock heads actually sounded best so far on the 13, and not bad on the 16 (if a bit thin). So I might try a coated Amb on the 13 and coated Emps on the floors.

Power Center Reverse over Hazy 300 on the snare...sounds better than a few other heads I've tried (stock, coated G2, coated Force X). A bit of a funky overtone going on, but I'm considering swapping the hoops for S-Hoops to dry it out a bit.

Stock kick heads are fantastic...huge kick sound with a ton of boom and volume. Like a subwoofer. It's easily twice as loud as my old Keller 22x17. Quite happy with those, although I might put a small blanket or pillow in the kick and/or put a ported front head on if I every play out live.]]> http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4491 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 06:57:23 -0500 admin http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4491
Kindest Regards]]>
Kindest Regards]]> http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4490 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:59:41 -0500 Patentagosse http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4490 To me it looks like the 1st attemps to actual gorgeous Butter Burst, don't you think?

[attachment=7630]]]> To me it looks like the 1st attemps to actual gorgeous Butter Burst, don't you think?

[attachment=7630]]]> http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4489 Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:31:48 -0500 Patentagosse http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4489
C'mon Mapex, give us something to proudly wear in clinics and concerts around... ]]>
C'mon Mapex, give us something to proudly wear in clinics and concerts around... ]]> http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4488 Sun, 04 Jan 2009 22:06:36 -0500 wa2xtreme http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4488
http://www.poboydrums.com/cymbals.html

I just ordered a 10" Atmospheres Dusk splash. It was really cheap so I figured I'd give one a try.]]>
http://www.poboydrums.com/cymbals.html

I just ordered a 10" Atmospheres Dusk splash. It was really cheap so I figured I'd give one a try.]]> http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4487 Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:51:27 -0500 Patentagosse http://www.centerstagem.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4487
I'd really like to me able to order few "custom" items, even if it takes longer and cost more (i.e. octoban-like effect toms in my Orion matching finish). I can order acrylic ones from few brands out there but they come all black or clear so I pass...

http://usa.mapexdrums.com/artists/bio.asp?ID=27

What do ya think? 6" right? (lets figure the other one is a regular 10x8)]]>
I'd really like to me able to order few "custom" items, even if it takes longer and cost more (i.e. octoban-like effect toms in my Orion matching finish). I can order acrylic ones from few brands out there but they come all black or clear so I pass...

http://usa.mapexdrums.com/artists/bio.asp?ID=27

What do ya think? 6" right? (lets figure the other one is a regular 10x8)]]>